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If you're a fan of Supernatural -and you keep up somewhat with fandom- then you'll know what a disaster the majority of fandom has been this season thus far. Wank expands across every community and it's basically impossible to escape it.

I know myself, and so many others too, are getting fucking sick of all the hating and negativity people are showing the show. And since some people don't seem to get a clue that if you don't like it, don't watch it, I'm going to propose a plan.

Going by how quickly it catches on or if people like the idea, we can start it immediately next week.

The idea is this:

I would love to make a place where, before the show, all LOVING SUPERNATURAL FANS can come to squee and flail and just show their general excitement for the show.

It'd go throughout the episode and people can talk with each other as its airing if you so desire.

There are a few rules it would require, of course, the main being absolutely no wank whatsoever.

+There would be NO character bashing allowed [There's a difference between saying "Oh Sam ytf did you do that?" and "Sam you're a fucking idiot I hate you."].

+No excessive hating on the episode [if you say you're not feeling this episode, fine, BUT ONLY ONCE. Repeatedly going on about how much this episode sucks will just get you kicked out.]

+No 'moar *insert character here*'

Obviously more rules could be added if this idea comes to being.


Now the most important question: where would this take place? I really don't want to create a comm as I do want this to be somewhat private [not elite, mind you, just not something that absolutely EVERYONE knows about] and while AIM could be cool with the chatroom feature, I just don't know if that would work.

I would prefer to do it in my own journal where I could easily moderate and ban strays if need be. I'm not going to be some strict 'no you dont say that' bitch; the only things I'd be looking for is violations of the things I said above.

However, if you think a community would be better, feel free to comment and we can discuss. There are benefits to a community such as moderated entrance, friends-locking posts so only members can see, etc.

Overall this is going to be a haven by a fan for ALL fans of Supernatural that still love and have faith in the show, so give me any input or comments you have as this is for you.

Honestly I'm not trying to gain anything personally by this [as I know some would assume I'm doing] or trying to start some sort of fan war. I am just one of the many fans that is fed up completely with the complete lack of respect for the show that so many have been showing it this season.

And a poll to make things easier:
[Poll #1644283]

I would appreciate any and all comments or feedback you have. If you agree with the idea, let me know, think it'd be a waste of time? Let me know.


Please advertise this post in your journals and get your friends to come vote and participate if they feel the same as we do. I need a lot more feedback than just the votes from my flist. If this is going to happen, I'd love more fans to join and not just the SPN fans I know.


I hope this works out because I really, really want to be able to talk about Show with people again without fearing going into a comm and immediately wanting to leave.

TYFYT.

[I made this up rather quickly so be sure to check back for edits/updates after people show interest - if they show interest.]

Edit 1: I have made a post advertisting this poll on Tumblr, right here at this link so please Reblog or Like if you have a Tumblr.

Edit 2: If this happens and the option chosen is that it will be in my journal, I think banners will be necessary to advertise every Friday before a show to let people know and give a reminder to those who want to join. I'd be willing to make a few and anyone else who is fond of making graphics can do so too.

Edit 3: At this point and time the best bet for the idea is either in my journal or a newly made community. The time difference is a big contributing factor as to why a chatroom wouldn't work - and plus if it were an LJ post it would be open for hours before and after the ep was over so people could continue to talk if they wanted. And also so those who work/don't watch until later can still come in and participate.
If you're still really into the chatroom idea let me know and we can talk it through.

Edit 4: So at this stage it's been decided by me and the commenters here that our best bet is a journal post here. Because of the time difference and the fact I know Europeans will want to participate too, the post will be opened about noon on Friday and remain open until midnight. If someone feels we should have two posts - one at noon until 5 or so and then another - just tell me your thoughts.

I do have a fairly easy class schedule - every other week it will be posted a bit later, around 12:30 because I have a class until noon. On the other ones it will be posted exactly at noon since I have no class.

I am going to be making a Twitter that people can follow to let them know when the posts are up and any changes that are made to the process or anything else that may need to be said. I'll reply to each comment here with the link after I've made it.

At this stage all I can ask is that you please advertise this. Advertise this post, the idea, my name, the Twitter - if people don't know about it, no one will come.

First thing on my agenda is to make the Twitter [so follow that if you want updates as otherwise you'll have no idea when its taking place] then I will start on a couple of graphics to use for advert banners that we can spread around LJ.

If this gets popular enough to where a community is actually needed we can discuss that when we get to it. Best bet now is a post here. After the Twitter is set up I'm going to also make a poll to decide whether we should have rewatch posts as well for the Fridays that there's no episode on.

I want to thank you all for your interest and really hope you won't leave this idea behind after showing your support and will truly get behind it and will help me to ensure it becomes a success.

The Twitter account is Here. Please follow and RT to let people know of its existence.

Edit: not sure if people are tracking this post or not, but there's an updated location poll right Here

Date: 2010-11-14 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qaf-addict-06.livejournal.com
You know I'll be there LOL

I voted for "a post in my journal" but I'd be okay with it being on MSN or even a community, if it came to that. I know awhile back some of us from SPNP tried to start another comm with these kinds of guidelines and nothing ever came from it because we couldn't get anyone to join :/ But like you said, the good thing about a comm would be the moderation thing without having to friend someone who wants to be involved. IDK LoL

I'll post something on my journal, too, redirecting them here.

You know I'm up for this idea completely, especially after last night.

Date: 2010-11-14 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
;]

I think the problem with that might have been not enough exposure - we'd need to post it on all our journals and say it's a wank-free place where people who still adore the show can come and squee about it without having to worry about seeing bashing.
Though, personally, a community with fewer members the better, imo. It'd be a surefire way to ensure no wank and all positivity.

Oh the post would be un-flocked! [Unless someone persuades me differently] Anyone who feels like we do can come and if someone starts shit then I simply ban them. lol

I know bb, I know. That's why I'm hoping so motherfucking hard that it works. <3

[I'm going to advertise this on Tumblr; should get more hits that way.]

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Date: 2010-11-14 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Hello, this is just a comment to tell you I've created the Twitter for the chats. It will contain updates and post time reminders, links to the posts and also to other polls/updates.

Please follow the Twitter Here (https://twitter.com/#!/wankfreespn) and show your support by passing the link around.

Feel free to also still advertise this post in your own LJ.

Date: 2010-11-14 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipwrecking.livejournal.com
I am very much for this idea. I'm tired of all the hate, seriously.

Date: 2010-11-14 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
So glad! I'm seriously sick of it too and am dying for a chance.

Are you for the AIM/MSN/community/or in my journal for location?

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Date: 2010-11-14 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Hello, this is just a comment to tell you I've created the Twitter for the chats. It will contain updates and post time reminders, links to the posts and also to other polls/updates.

Please follow the Twitter Here (https://twitter.com/#!/wankfreespn) and show your support by passing the link around.

Feel free to also still advertise this post in your own LJ.

Date: 2010-11-14 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] longerthanwedo.livejournal.com
I think this sounds like an excellent idea. A no-hate place is something this fandom seriously needs.

I'd be fine with an AIM chatroom, but the only problem with that is that my time zone is four hours behind when the show airs for most people, so if there's a scheduled chat I might not be able to be there. So for that reason I'd say a community or your journal would be the best bet for before-show discussion, and after-show commentary, because then people like me would be able to join at any time rather than fitting to a schedule. Hopefully that makes sense, haha.

Date: 2010-11-14 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
I'm glad you think so! I know things like this probably gets brought up a lot but, honestly, I'm going to try my damn hardest to really keep it positive. Because of that it'll be semi-strict but not to the point where people need to fear for what they say. Just keep clear of bashing and it's all good.

I completely understand, which is another reason why I think an LJ post is better suited than an AIM chat. It would be made a few hours beforehand and give people who haven't seen it the time to chat and then afterwards it'll still be open so those are are just getting around to watching it can also come and talk with the people still there.

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Date: 2010-11-14 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Hello, this is just a comment to tell you I've created the Twitter for the chats. It will contain updates and post time reminders, links to the posts and also to other polls/updates.

Please follow the Twitter Here (https://twitter.com/#!/wankfreespn) and show your support by passing the link around.

Feel free to also still advertise this post in your own LJ.

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Date: 2010-11-14 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] micheleeeex.livejournal.com
i'm all for it! i voted for "a post in my journal" because i never go on msn & aim anymore LOL.

Date: 2010-11-14 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Okay great! :D

Alright, thanks for the input. At this rate a post in my journal or possibly a comm seems to be the best option.

And unf your icon. o.0

Date: 2010-11-14 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Hello, this is just a comment to tell you I've created the Twitter for the chats. It will contain updates and post time reminders, links to the posts and also to other polls/updates.

Please follow the Twitter Here (https://twitter.com/#!/wankfreespn) and show your support by passing the link around.

Feel free to also still advertise this post in your own LJ.

Date: 2010-11-14 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misstwi.livejournal.com
LOVE THIS IDEA SO HARD.

I love Show. Always. ;_; I may be annoyed at certain things- like the lack of scary angry spirits lately, but it doesn't decrease my love of it, not at all. <3 I accept it in any way~ And I wish others did too.

I voted for a post in your journal, as I also don't know how the others would work. I guess a chatroom would be fine, but then people would have to work out their time differences and stuff. And with a post here, people can come back and comment if they missed it by a few hours or something.

A comm would be good too, I think. Just because it's better at organization and stuff. But I still consider myself new to LJ and to the fandom, so don't take me too seriously. XD

Date: 2010-11-14 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
I'M SO GLAD. :D

Right? I wish others could view it like you.

Yeah, the whole time difference thing is stump-y so it will probably end up being a post in here or a comm. That and here we can post pretty pics and gifs to express our ~excitement. xD

A comm would also work great too for the stuff I mentioned already and the fact that it'd be a lot easier to kick the offenders out. haha

I WILL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY BB! YOUR OPINION MATTERS! ;]

Date: 2010-11-14 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Hello, this is just a comment to tell you I've created the Twitter for the chats. It will contain updates and post time reminders, links to the posts and also to other polls/updates.

Please follow the Twitter Here (https://twitter.com/#!/wankfreespn) and show your support by passing the link around.

Feel free to also still advertise this post in your own LJ.

Date: 2010-11-14 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oth-leyton-love.livejournal.com
you know i'll be there!

also, i voted MSN because i'm THAT lazy that i hate refresh and MSN is just easier. LOL

Date: 2010-11-14 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
:D

Well, it'll probably end up being a post here. xD I'm sorry for your finger in advance. lol

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Date: 2010-11-14 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheese-hybrid.livejournal.com
I'm loving on this idea so hard right now. After last night's episode I realized that I'm sick of the haters.

I voted for a journal post, mostly because I don't really use AIM or MSN. Second choice would be MSN.

You're brilliant.

Date: 2010-11-14 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Yup, you are SO not the only one. I think a lot of us [though we tend to hide a bit] are just really fucking tired of fandom this year. I'd like to call this place Wank-Free Save Haven. xD

Okay, thank you for your input!

Aww *blush* Nah, just trying to help us all out.

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Date: 2010-11-14 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rileycakes.livejournal.com
I think this would be great! The only problem I would have with a chat thing is that it will be harder for west coasters such as myself to participate. However, as long as we could maybe read what was said at some point in time, that would be a-okay.

Date: 2010-11-14 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
I have an idea now to open the Pre-chat at about Noon. I live in central time so it'd be about eleven for you and one for east coasters. That would stay open all the way until midnight. Or, we could possibly open up another thread two hours before the show airs and call it the Show-chat. Either way would work with me.

Thanks for contributing! :D

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Date: 2010-11-14 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelicmousegrl.livejournal.com
I love this idea and I would definitely join in. =D

I voted for the journal option, I think it would be easiest but I am flexible with wherever you want to have it.

It's very nice to know there are others out there who feel the way that I do. =D

(Ooh Sherlock mood theme is LOVE)

Date: 2010-11-14 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Yay great!

A journal post is the option I'm pretty much going with now as it truly seems it'll be the easiest without resorting to making a comm. If this gets popular enough where I can't handle the amount of comments to get through we may go to a community where I can bring on other Moderators.

There are definitely a lot of us out there who feel the same - I'm just trying to get this all into one place.

(Eee thank you! Adore Sherlock! I also love your icon; I remember using that way back when Adam was still on Idol.)

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Date: 2010-11-14 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canyon_deye.livejournal.com
I'd be there! :)

tho pre-show discussions that start an hour before the show or so can be kinda pointless to fans outside of the US. I'd suggest discussion post that begins a lot of hours before :D like 12 or 10 so that Europeans won't feel left out. ;)

I'm sure this will be a success! :D

Date: 2010-11-14 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Great! :D

Yes, I've decided I'm going to open up the chat at about noon my time so even if you live in Europe it'd only be from 6-8 where you guys are. I'll probably just end up leaving that open until midnight instead of opening a new one.

I sure hope so! Just please help us out by advertising this post in your LJ! :D

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Date: 2010-11-14 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jnhardyzmercy.livejournal.com
I like this idea! I think that it would be fun! Even though I guess I am somehow oblivious to the wank (I know? how does this happen?), I'm all for more places to share my SPN love with other SPN fans!

I love this show, even when I hate it. Does that make sense? Like, sometimes things will happen and (in the heat of the moment) I will be like 'OMGWTF?!?!11?!?!/!1' but always at the end of the day I snuggle up in bed with the show and scratch its back until it falls asleep (figuratively, of course).

I voted for 'on your journal' becuase it doesn't really matter to me..I'll probably be there no matter what. Also, I am a follower. :D

I voted for 'other' for the time because...just a suggestion, mind you...but I would REALLY love a place where all day Friday I/we could just show up whenever we had a chance and comment and be like 'OMGSOEXCITE' then go back about our business. Maybe I just have a lot of pent up excitement? I don't know...it's a suggestion and it's totally cool if no one wants that/it won't work.

If you need any help, I'll do my best. I don't have any really useful skillz (like graphics or Advanced Internet) but I am willing to help in any way I can :D

Date: 2010-11-14 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
LOL you're quite lucky then.

It's going to be on my journal, I think, as it seems to be the most popular/reasonable option.

I'm going to make the post about noon and keep it open till midnight. People can come and go as they please and chat with those who are still here. I'll probably always be here. :p

Best way you can help is to please advert this post on your LJ and after we get banners to advertise the actual posts, please share those too. I'm going to also make a Twitter for the posts to let people know when they're up.

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Date: 2010-11-14 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolnmoon.livejournal.com
This is the best Idea I have heard of in a long time. I prayed there would be an spn fandom chat where I could escape the wank.

I so want to Join this because it is going to be EPIC..

I like the idea of a post in the journal because you can then use gif's and pics etc while chatting kind of like a party atmosphere.

Although I do use MSN so that wouldn't be a problem either.

Date: 2010-11-14 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Thank you for your input.

Date: 2010-11-14 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riotguns.livejournal.com
I used to be heavily involved in the SPN fandom through seasons 2-5. Somewhere in the midst of season 5, I got sick and tired of all the wank, especially towards Sam (for obvious plot reasons). I absolutely could not stand it. A wank-free community would be ideal for me. I can't make it on AIM or MSN and I'd feel a lot more comfortable posting in a community than someone's journal.

Date: 2010-11-14 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Thanks for your input.

Why would a community be better for you? What do you find more appealing about posting there than in my journal? Just have to ask, because if more people feel like you i may make one. Only issue is that with comms theres always the chance no one will use it and it will remain inactive. At least in my journal i could ensure some sort of activity as i will always be here

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Date: 2010-11-15 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stickingplaster.livejournal.com
Honestly, I find the idea of posting on someone else's journal really awkward and weird. I honestly highly doubt I would participate unless it was a community. Even if I could not post there myself, and only moderators could. A personal journal makes me feel like I'm passing notes through you to someone else.

I understand how school may be keeping you busy, but I don't see how managing a community would take a lot of your time. All you'd have to do is make the same post on a comm, rather than on your journal. It does not have to have other posts as well.

Date: 2010-11-15 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liebesdammerung.livejournal.com
I like the plan so far. <33 I am definitely up for this. NO HATE. :)

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