I'm going to regret this

[gothic_elvis]

People are going to be upset.

For some people it is their all, their only pairing - their OTP. I'm sure most people know it's only fandom and not to actually be taken literally but even if they don't that's really no need for the things I've seen said. The two guys they love with all their heart got married and it wasn't to each other - people are going to be devastated and the devastation is going to last for a while. It's not going to just go away. I know you wish fandom was perfect and that people would just get over it but it doesn't work that way, life doesn't work that way.
People are upset and they're going to be upset for as long as they want until they feel better about it or can rationalize it. Saying you want them to stop because it's embarassing you and making you sad for fandom is really kind of ridiculous and it's not going to do anything but make people a little pissed that they're not allowed to feel what they want but yet you're allowed to say what they're feeling is wrong. The pictures just came out and I'm sure the sadness is not even halfway over - it may even last the entire summer. Who knows how long it'll take people to get over it. I'm sure talk itself will die down after a week but the feeling will still be there in some fans, it won't have gone away. I really just think it's unfair to be so judgemental and tsk-tsk on people because they got more emotional than you. Now, there is a line of course, between emotional and irrational and if people go so far as to wish ill-will on the girls or even the boys themselves than yes, that is too far. But if people are simply being sad, moping a bit or making semi-whiny posts I really don't get the harm in that. J2 is their pairing and it's what they believed in and while most of the time it's easy to differentiate between fandom and RL canon sometimes - like these - it's not. I mean marraige is a big thing, it means all fic now will have to be AUs, in the past or divorce fics. Things change majorly - or can change majorly - after a marraige.

I am, personally, over it. I've come to terms with it in the last 24 hours and am perfectly fine and will go on reading j2 - new and old. I know others are not going to bounce back quite as quickly as me and that's fine. Everyone will cope and deal in different ways and trying to spur on the healing process because it'll make you feel better and less embarassed is kind of sad. Just let them be upset, let them whine and bitch - whatever they need to move on. After that's done and out of the way, they'll be able to realize it happened and it's not going to just go away and move on, too.

What I'm trying to say is - don't think your feelings are more important or valid than others. You may be embarassed of fandom right now for acting the way it is but I'm sure those who are still upset are embarassed themselves and probably a little hurt. I know some arent going to understand why people are so depressed with these events but they are and, to me, they have a bit of a right to be. J2 is pretty epic. But, in real life, they are now married and it's to two girls - Gen and Danneel - not to each other so a bit of the fun in fandom probably feels like it's gone and died. It hasn't though, I can assure you that - after all this moping fandom will - hopefully - be back bigger and better than ever. with an abundance of divorce fics

Just keep on living and do what you do, peeps; don't try to change others to fit what you want.

Ye not judge!


If I offended you in this post because you're one of the ones that's upset by how people are taking the pictures then I'm sorry but, you ranted in your journals, now I'm ranting in mine. No harm was truly meant to any of you and I feel no feelings of anger at all about it. I'm just trying to get everyone on the same level and come to terms with whats gone down in, hopefully, a reasonable way without starting the blaming game.

That is all.

Comments

[elvensapphire.livejournal.com]

*CHANTS WITH YOU* THANK YOU, DEAR CREATORS, FOR GIVING US THAT WHICH MAKES US OVER-EMOTIONAL AND THOUGHTFUL AND PUTS THE HEARTS IN OUR EYYYYEEES. ♥_♥

Support Love should be the motto of the world.

You're so sweet, thank you. <3 I'm a really big loser when it comes to lyrics and quotes (I have a journal where I write them down if I hear/read one that I want to remember) and sometimes they can be just as expressive as using your own words. And it's all right. It happened last year, and I'm (mostly) past everything. The recovery took a while, but it's better. Part of why I did the friending meme when I met you is because I'd been so guarded recently and I thought it would be good to push my comfort level a little. And I'm glad I did! :)

RIGHT? I think they start to become a collection. YOU CAN'T ONLY HAVE ONE. OR TWO. OR TWENTY.

That gif makes my life better. BWEE.

[jennybliss.livejournal.com]

I totally agree! I hate wank and I have been lucky enough not to have seen much of it about the guys getting married. I have to say that I am looking forward to see how writers deal with this. I would really hate to see a lot of fics that hate on the girls. I don't know much about Gen, but what I have seen and read and heard about Danneel it that she is a very nice person.

It is great that you shared this because I know you were upset about the guys being married. I also think that it needs to be said.

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[lady-eilthana.livejournal.com]

Thank you for this.
I don't really know what else to say because you said most of it but just... yeah. This. <3

[nightowl81.livejournal.com]

I don't think there's anything here that should make people upset. It's very reasonable and fair.

I know I'm repeating myself but I really don't see our J2 and the real J2 colliding. Our J2 has always been fictional, even though it's based on so many facts. And it will remain fiction. We may ship them like crazy but that doesn't mean we don't accept their life choices or don't wish them success in every aspect of their lives.

So... yeah, I'll be sitting in my corner quietly, reading fics like this (http://raconter.livejournal.com/24046.html) and waiting for the whole wedding fever and depression to go away.


And hey, btw - I'm really glad I did that friending meme if I get to know people like you ;)

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

HAAYAAAHAHAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEE!

It should. My own personal motto is "Live and let live" but that one is a close second.

Lyrics/poetry can be so beautiful, I love it. Whenever I hear a line I like I try to commit it to memory - because of course I NEVER have paper around when I do :p - but I usually end up forgetting so I have to wait till I hear the song again. :p

Ah, well I'm glad you let down your guard then! It's good to let people in, you just have to know who and how much - which can be hard. That's also partly why I made my journal FO; made me nevous when it wasnt.

I think I have, like, 300 SPN/J2 anims alone. xDDD I'm obsesseeddd.

It does mine too; I love the one that's the montage clips from the finale with that ending hug with Dean. <33333

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

Yeah I'm partly looking forward to and dreading xD which is probably why I'll stick with Wincest for a while longer. ;]
I've heard that too - plus I've seen vids with the both of them and they both seem very nice and lovely. Still cant stand Danneel's voice though.

I was upset but I'm okay now, but thank you. <3333

*huggles* Aww that is so cute! :D

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

No problem, I'm glad you like it/agree. :] <3

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

Thank you! I'm glad it came off that way because it wasn't meant to be taken in any other.

Yup, totally agree. *nod*

Yay cuddle!fic; I adore those so much and those are JUST what we need right now. Thanks for that link. <33

Awww thanks so much, bb, you're so sweet. <333 I feel the same way and that's why I do friending memes because sometimes you get lucky and meet some really awesome people. :D ♥

[miko-jasmine.livejournal.com]

thank you so much for posting this! :) i find myself somewhere in the middle of the scale...very sad but understanding there is a difference between fanfic & real life. actually, i have found that reading fics makes me feel a bit better! so, thank you for pointing out that people are allowed to feel sad & upset by this.

[nightowl81.livejournal.com]

Heh, I read only happy fics, to be honest. Well, I do like a little bit of angst, since it always makes the plot more interesting and emotional, but I only do happy endings. This is what fanfiction/fandom is for me. My happy place. I've had enough sadness in real life and prefer not to put myself through any additional pain, you know? X3

Maybe that's why I'm able to treat my romantic J2 world as something not entirely real more easily than some people, I don't know... Anyway, my point is, if you're looking for happy fics (either J2 or Sam/Dean), you can always look through my recs. I keep adding old and new fics and some fanart and 90% of it is happy ♥

[getyourguns.livejournal.com]

Good post. While I'm one of the ones rolling my eyes and laughing about it, I've not said anything in my journal because I know that some people just get invested in celeb relationships, whether they are real or not. People just do what they do.

[lady-eilthana.livejournal.com]

Yes, I like this call for tolerance and I agree: there might be some things which are too much but why can't we all just live in peace next to each other in this fandom?! Why can't somebody who doesn't agree with some particular opinions just think what they want to say (instead of saying it) and leave?! I've only seen one pic so far (and I wasn't really looking for it, actually) but that was enough and will leave me some thinking material for a while. Probably not the happiest "puppies and rainbows" thoughts. But that's a personal opinion and I talk about it with who I want and it's sad that there are people who point their fingers at others who might not be all squee-y and flail-y at the recent developments.

Uhm, yeah, whoops, that got a little bit long. o.Ô

[kros-21.livejournal.com]

honestly I'm all for 100% free will and by that I mean that if I want to sulk and be morose for a year because of the boys' wedding or whatever, I can. :P
I mean, it's not like we go there threatening their family outside their house's gate. they are free to do what they want, and they did. I am free too to have a reaction and to cope as I want.

I don't understand all these posts that say "you shouldn't do that, you shouldn't react like that".
Everyone is free to react as they want, to write fic in which Gen and Dan are bitches or angels... whatever.

I'll go on my way and I don't think my ideas about J2 are going to change anything soon.

thanks a lot for writing this sweetheart.

*hugs*

[superfire.livejournal.com]

Now THIS is the best meta I've seen on the subject!

WELL DONE, AND WORD.

[dugindeep.livejournal.com]

So I should stop hoping my recently and ridiculously wed cousin (after two months of dating) will get a divorce? XD

I think maybe you're finding that the people who like soap operay tales are writing the divorces because it's ~dramatic. The people who respect the weddings are likely not into all the drama queen storylines? Maybe, perchance?

[oth-leyton-love.livejournal.com]

THIS. IS WHY I LOVE YOU AND AM GLAD THAT I FRIENDED YOU.

i agree, me? i'm with you, i still love J2, but i've come to terms with it and will still read the fic, no matter what. but i understand how some people can and will still be sad. for me the wedding days were harder than the wedding photos. idk. my brain. but yeah, and for people to tell a part of fandom to stfu and get over it. is just retarded. sure we don't know these guys... but for some people they've been shipping them for 5 years. that's a long ass time for someone to ship something, and lot of people can't just 'get over it' and people telling them too just because the pictures are out now? is stupid

[kajmere.livejournal.com]

Im here though a flist rec and all i have to say is:

thank you so much. this post will mean the world to so many fans! myself included. Im not losing sleep over the whole thing, but just as you put it everything is AU from now on, and im ok with that.

this is beautiful ♥

& I don't know how people can be upset with such a positive, unjudgmental post. its more mature then the latter i've come across from the non-j2 fans :)

im recc'ing this on my journal, so i hope you don't mind

[13chapters.livejournal.com]

Well, I think that's different because you actually know your cousin and have some idea about his/her relationship. It's not the same as being mad the celebrities you don't know personally have a private life that interferes with your fantasies.

IDK about your theory, and tbh I'm not going to investigate it because atm non-AU stuff is squicking me out hard core and I can't read it at all.

[dugindeep.livejournal.com]

Dude, I totally know Jensen and Jared personally and all the ins and outs of their relationships. Totally.

I'mma investigate it. And create, like, charts, and boards, and a PowerPoint.

[13chapters.livejournal.com]

Nothing is valid unless it has a PowerPoint.

Since you know the boys so well, could you make Jared do something about his fucking hair?

[dugindeep.livejournal.com]

I've been trying. It's a process.

[ckll.livejournal.com]

I haven't read your whole post because i'm a simple J2 fan who doesn't analysing things and situations much. I enjoy, i avoid wanks and gossips and stick to the facts i know.
The weddings mean nothing to me and they won't change the way i feel about J2.

[crimsonkitty88.livejournal.com]

YAY FOR THIS! I get more angry at people telling me what I should or should not feel than I do at the actual events themselves (whatever that may be)

[applepie-x0.livejournal.com]

OH HAIII ♥ I kind of love you for this. Thank you (: ♥

[egotists.livejournal.com]

-Hugs tight-