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People are going to be upset.

For some people it is their all, their only pairing - their OTP. I'm sure most people know it's only fandom and not to actually be taken literally but even if they don't that's really no need for the things I've seen said. The two guys they love with all their heart got married and it wasn't to each other - people are going to be devastated and the devastation is going to last for a while. It's not going to just go away. I know you wish fandom was perfect and that people would just get over it but it doesn't work that way, life doesn't work that way.
People are upset and they're going to be upset for as long as they want until they feel better about it or can rationalize it. Saying you want them to stop because it's embarassing you and making you sad for fandom is really kind of ridiculous and it's not going to do anything but make people a little pissed that they're not allowed to feel what they want but yet you're allowed to say what they're feeling is wrong. The pictures just came out and I'm sure the sadness is not even halfway over - it may even last the entire summer. Who knows how long it'll take people to get over it. I'm sure talk itself will die down after a week but the feeling will still be there in some fans, it won't have gone away. I really just think it's unfair to be so judgemental and tsk-tsk on people because they got more emotional than you. Now, there is a line of course, between emotional and irrational and if people go so far as to wish ill-will on the girls or even the boys themselves than yes, that is too far. But if people are simply being sad, moping a bit or making semi-whiny posts I really don't get the harm in that. J2 is their pairing and it's what they believed in and while most of the time it's easy to differentiate between fandom and RL canon sometimes - like these - it's not. I mean marraige is a big thing, it means all fic now will have to be AUs, in the past or divorce fics. Things change majorly - or can change majorly - after a marraige.

I am, personally, over it. I've come to terms with it in the last 24 hours and am perfectly fine and will go on reading j2 - new and old. I know others are not going to bounce back quite as quickly as me and that's fine. Everyone will cope and deal in different ways and trying to spur on the healing process because it'll make you feel better and less embarassed is kind of sad. Just let them be upset, let them whine and bitch - whatever they need to move on. After that's done and out of the way, they'll be able to realize it happened and it's not going to just go away and move on, too.

What I'm trying to say is - don't think your feelings are more important or valid than others. You may be embarassed of fandom right now for acting the way it is but I'm sure those who are still upset are embarassed themselves and probably a little hurt. I know some arent going to understand why people are so depressed with these events but they are and, to me, they have a bit of a right to be. J2 is pretty epic. But, in real life, they are now married and it's to two girls - Gen and Danneel - not to each other so a bit of the fun in fandom probably feels like it's gone and died. It hasn't though, I can assure you that - after all this moping fandom will - hopefully - be back bigger and better than ever. with an abundance of divorce fics

Just keep on living and do what you do, peeps; don't try to change others to fit what you want.

Ye not judge!


If I offended you in this post because you're one of the ones that's upset by how people are taking the pictures then I'm sorry but, you ranted in your journals, now I'm ranting in mine. No harm was truly meant to any of you and I feel no feelings of anger at all about it. I'm just trying to get everyone on the same level and come to terms with whats gone down in, hopefully, a reasonable way without starting the blaming game.

That is all.

Date: 2010-06-04 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
I don't see how divorce fic is anymore distasteful than anything else in fic, like non con or *shudders* mpreg. It's just a genre, like anything else. As long as they don't do the route you specified, it should be okay.
But, I already know there will probably be at least a few 'THE GIRLS ARE EVILLLL' divorce fics and I'm full aware of that. :p

xDDD This is true. I've been reading purely Wincest for the past few weeks and I'll probably stick with it for a while.

Date: 2010-06-04 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 13chapters.livejournal.com
Well, I guess divorce fic isn't INHERENTLY bad, but it seems to be handled really poorly on a regular basis, so I would personally avoid it.

But given the timing - the boys JUST got married - it seems so...bitter and butthurt right now. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it makes me think that the writer is actually hoping they get divorced and that is what I find distasteful.

Date: 2010-06-04 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think for the moment I'm going to just avoid divorce fics - at least for a while.

Eh, I have no comment on that as I'm pretty sure that IS what they want. :p Wait, I guess that was a comment. xD

Date: 2010-06-04 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 13chapters.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think it is very classless to publicly express a desire that people - at least, people who are newlyweds and there aren't a lot of extenuating circumstances - get divorced.

Date: 2010-06-04 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothic-elvis.livejournal.com
Yeah that's a little bit dick-ish...they should at least wait a few months!

jk

But no, that is pretty immature to write a divorce fic and make the gals evil just to make yourselves - and maybe a few others- feel better about it. :p

Date: 2010-06-04 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dugindeep.livejournal.com
So I should stop hoping my recently and ridiculously wed cousin (after two months of dating) will get a divorce? XD

I think maybe you're finding that the people who like soap operay tales are writing the divorces because it's ~dramatic. The people who respect the weddings are likely not into all the drama queen storylines? Maybe, perchance?

Date: 2010-06-04 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 13chapters.livejournal.com
Well, I think that's different because you actually know your cousin and have some idea about his/her relationship. It's not the same as being mad the celebrities you don't know personally have a private life that interferes with your fantasies.

IDK about your theory, and tbh I'm not going to investigate it because atm non-AU stuff is squicking me out hard core and I can't read it at all.

Date: 2010-06-04 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dugindeep.livejournal.com
Dude, I totally know Jensen and Jared personally and all the ins and outs of their relationships. Totally.

I'mma investigate it. And create, like, charts, and boards, and a PowerPoint.

Date: 2010-06-04 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 13chapters.livejournal.com
Nothing is valid unless it has a PowerPoint.

Since you know the boys so well, could you make Jared do something about his fucking hair?

Date: 2010-06-04 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dugindeep.livejournal.com
I've been trying. It's a process.

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