I'm going to regret this

[gothic_elvis]

People are going to be upset.

For some people it is their all, their only pairing - their OTP. I'm sure most people know it's only fandom and not to actually be taken literally but even if they don't that's really no need for the things I've seen said. The two guys they love with all their heart got married and it wasn't to each other - people are going to be devastated and the devastation is going to last for a while. It's not going to just go away. I know you wish fandom was perfect and that people would just get over it but it doesn't work that way, life doesn't work that way.
People are upset and they're going to be upset for as long as they want until they feel better about it or can rationalize it. Saying you want them to stop because it's embarassing you and making you sad for fandom is really kind of ridiculous and it's not going to do anything but make people a little pissed that they're not allowed to feel what they want but yet you're allowed to say what they're feeling is wrong. The pictures just came out and I'm sure the sadness is not even halfway over - it may even last the entire summer. Who knows how long it'll take people to get over it. I'm sure talk itself will die down after a week but the feeling will still be there in some fans, it won't have gone away. I really just think it's unfair to be so judgemental and tsk-tsk on people because they got more emotional than you. Now, there is a line of course, between emotional and irrational and if people go so far as to wish ill-will on the girls or even the boys themselves than yes, that is too far. But if people are simply being sad, moping a bit or making semi-whiny posts I really don't get the harm in that. J2 is their pairing and it's what they believed in and while most of the time it's easy to differentiate between fandom and RL canon sometimes - like these - it's not. I mean marraige is a big thing, it means all fic now will have to be AUs, in the past or divorce fics. Things change majorly - or can change majorly - after a marraige.

I am, personally, over it. I've come to terms with it in the last 24 hours and am perfectly fine and will go on reading j2 - new and old. I know others are not going to bounce back quite as quickly as me and that's fine. Everyone will cope and deal in different ways and trying to spur on the healing process because it'll make you feel better and less embarassed is kind of sad. Just let them be upset, let them whine and bitch - whatever they need to move on. After that's done and out of the way, they'll be able to realize it happened and it's not going to just go away and move on, too.

What I'm trying to say is - don't think your feelings are more important or valid than others. You may be embarassed of fandom right now for acting the way it is but I'm sure those who are still upset are embarassed themselves and probably a little hurt. I know some arent going to understand why people are so depressed with these events but they are and, to me, they have a bit of a right to be. J2 is pretty epic. But, in real life, they are now married and it's to two girls - Gen and Danneel - not to each other so a bit of the fun in fandom probably feels like it's gone and died. It hasn't though, I can assure you that - after all this moping fandom will - hopefully - be back bigger and better than ever. with an abundance of divorce fics

Just keep on living and do what you do, peeps; don't try to change others to fit what you want.

Ye not judge!


If I offended you in this post because you're one of the ones that's upset by how people are taking the pictures then I'm sorry but, you ranted in your journals, now I'm ranting in mine. No harm was truly meant to any of you and I feel no feelings of anger at all about it. I'm just trying to get everyone on the same level and come to terms with whats gone down in, hopefully, a reasonable way without starting the blaming game.

That is all.

Comments

[mikeyrhcp.livejournal.com]

THIS.

The one of the things that bothers me with this wank is how other people just DON'T EXCEPT the fact that yes, people are allowed to be a little bit sad, mope for a bit and then go on.

Thank you for writing this post. ♥

[elvensapphire.livejournal.com]

To be honest, I really don't care much about this issue, beyond only wanting Jensen and Jared to be happy and successful and thriving in their lives. The only thing that upsets me is if Genevieve or Danneel are being made out as the villains or evil temptresses, because that's disrespectful and wrong. They are real people and there's a line that fandom should not cross. (As there is a line that, say, the tabloid press shouldn't cross.) Ship the boys, write fics, be happy for them or sad about it - it doesn't matter, as long as the respect for the reality is there.

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

I'm glad someone agrees. :]

I'm just..I don't know, I'm a little upset by some people thinking their feelings are more valid than others. Just because they didn't get as OMGNOOOOO about the pics doesn't mean others didn't and that they SHOULDN'T, just because their own feelings werent the same.

No problem. <3

[13chapters.livejournal.com]

I don't know anything about any wank, and that's okay. All I do know is that writing divorce fics strikes me incredibly distasteful. Well, I've seen it done well, but mostly it's really bad, turning the girls into awful harridans, or showing their relationships with the boys as fake and a front. DNW x a trillion.

Of course, I'm so on edge regarding potential character assassination right now that I am only reading AU.

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

Well, I really don't either, obviously, but this needed to be said.

And I stated above that that bothers me too - I don't think that it's really a healthy way of coping with what happened. I just don't like how people are acting like their feelings on the subject are more important than others.

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

I don't see how divorce fic is anymore distasteful than anything else in fic, like non con or *shudders* mpreg. It's just a genre, like anything else. As long as they don't do the route you specified, it should be okay.
But, I already know there will probably be at least a few 'THE GIRLS ARE EVILLLL' divorce fics and I'm full aware of that. :p

xDDD This is true. I've been reading purely Wincest for the past few weeks and I'll probably stick with it for a while.

[13chapters.livejournal.com]

Well, I guess divorce fic isn't INHERENTLY bad, but it seems to be handled really poorly on a regular basis, so I would personally avoid it.

But given the timing - the boys JUST got married - it seems so...bitter and butthurt right now. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it makes me think that the writer is actually hoping they get divorced and that is what I find distasteful.

[canyon_deye.livejournal.com]

This is so spot on. I wholeheartedly agree and I'm really glad you posted this because it's just so very true. Every word of it. This is what people should realize; this is what all of us should realize.

I think you put it into words well, too.

You're awesome. <333333

[elvensapphire.livejournal.com]

I just don't like how people are acting like their feelings on the subject are more important than others. No, that's never good in any situation, and fandom shouldn't do that. (I hate wank with a passion, it's why I'm only very casually involved with fandom in general. I like my squee! No one shall judge or step on it! FREE TO BE YOU AND ME! And so on.) My Flist is blissfully free of any of that drama because all you people on my Flist are pretty much amazing sauce. (:

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think for the moment I'm going to just avoid divorce fics - at least for a while.

Eh, I have no comment on that as I'm pretty sure that IS what they want. :p Wait, I guess that was a comment. xD

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

Yeah wank is bleeeeehhh; just sucks there seems to be so much of it in this fandom. Sometimes it's easier to ignore than others.

Aww that's pretty awesome. <3 I have some on mine, at times more than others, but its nothing I can't deal with. :]

I like your new profile btw, the added gifs are purdy. :D

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

I'm glad you agree, bb. I partly made it for you and a few others. <33 I just...I don't like the attitude some people are approaching this on.

That's good. xD I'm still pretty tired so I was hoping that this would at least sound semi coherent.

You are too. <333

[elvensapphire.livejournal.com]

just sucks there seems to be so much of it in this fandom. I don't know why that is. So I jokingly blame the writers. THEY GIVE US SO MUCH ANGST, it causes everyone to go a little crazy sometimes. ;)

I &HEARTS; MY FLIST. *hugs*

And thank you! <3 There's a Dean and Sam gif that I also want to put in there, and I know it's on my computer, but it's hiding somewhere. I'll look for it again later. :D

[13chapters.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I think it is very classless to publicly express a desire that people - at least, people who are newlyweds and there aren't a lot of extenuating circumstances - get divorced.

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

THEY GIVE US TOO MUCH TO WORK WITH; WE CANT HANDLE IT! xD

Me too; they're all pretty awesome. ♥

Ohhhh awesome! I have an abundance of S&D gifs on mine. And I want mooorree xD I have so many gifs in Photobucket it's not even funny.

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

Yeah that's a little bit dick-ish...they should at least wait a few months!

jk

But no, that is pretty immature to write a divorce fic and make the gals evil just to make yourselves - and maybe a few others- feel better about it. :p

[heartsonwings.livejournal.com]

You have no idea how much I love you for this post ♥

I thought I was over the boys being married, I honestly did. But yesterday was when I realized that actually I wasn't. Seeing the pics of the boys and their wives, that was easy for me. But seeing pictures of the boys together and NOT married to each other...that was hard.

Thank you for this, so much.

[canyon_deye.livejournal.com]

I think the problem, at least partly, is that people tend to generalize so much. It's not only pn fandom but anywhere. One tinhatter - or hater, or anyone, really - does something that's really distasteful and completely crossing the line? Everybody is stigmatized. It's understandable but not really rational.

After all we can't possibly all have the same opinion about anything.

And idk, like I said I've been lucky with how understanding people have been to me and all, but I also know some people don't have that. It's astounding how people we think we're friends with, turn out to be anything but that over a simple disagreement.

idk if this made any sense. i'm having a sucky English day, apparently. XD

[klutzy-girl.livejournal.com]

I understand why people are upset. I was that way myself, but I've come to accept it. I now ship Jared/Jensen, Jensen/Danneel, and Jared/Gen. All three of those area dorable!

Seriously, those pictures are really freaking adorable. I love them!

[elvensapphire.livejournal.com]

THEY ARE CRUEL AND CAPRICIOUS MASTERS AND THEY MANIPULATE OUR EMOTIONS! xD

Your profile is really lovely (and I <3 the "Support Love" banner). It's difficult for me to put personal information in my bio (long story, crazy online stalker, you don't want to know), so I always feel like it's too generic? But on the other hand, the quotes themselves are fairly descriptive of who I am a person, so I let it be.

I love gifs too much. BUT WHO DOESN'T?!

ETA: I found it!!! :D http://i43.tinypic.com/141tfmx.jpg

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

-BOWS DOWN TO THEM- O HOLY ONES WHOM CREATE THE LOVELY FODDER FOR OUR INCEST FANFICTION. -CHANTS-

Thank you! Yeah, I've had that Support Love banner since I started on LJ. xD

I don't think it's generic! It's quite beautiful; I love quotes and song lyrics. But ooohhhh online stalker. :/ That's not good; sorry you went through that!

I DO TOO! THEY'RE ADDICTIVE!

Awwwwwww oh my god! That gif should go on EVERY profile. haha

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

No I understood that and I totally agree. There's no in between with fandom - it's either all one way or all the other. Have a lot of crazies in a fandom - that happen to stick out more than everyone else - and the fandom is labeled crazy.

I know, right? It's crazy how one little thing could tear people apart. I haven't really had that yet - hope not to. I really don't want to lose friends over this. :p

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

Aww I'm glad you loved it!

Yeah, I was pretty okay with everything then I, too, got a little :/ about it after seeing the pics. I let myself have a fifteen minute cry then I vowed to never cry about it again. I've kept to my promise so far. :p

No problem, sweetie. *hugs* ♥

[gothic-elvis.livejournal.com]

Mmhm, sounds just like me!

Haha I'm glad you're able to do that, cause I sure can't. It's still j2 all the way for me. Though I do know I won't be able to read fic where they make out the girls to be villains or something because I know thats not true and it makes me :/ now.

They are adorable! It looked like a great wedding. :D

[klutzy-girl.livejournal.com]

I definitely won't be able to read fics where they're villains either. I don't like that at all.